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Are you qualified in any way to be giving this advice? Like what makes people think your opinion is more valuable than just asking a friend for frwe	there are no qualifications to become a dating consultant. I have my undergrad in cultural anthropology, my masters in clinical social work, and working on my phd in clinical psychology. Dating is mostly marketing and psychology, so I do feel that my background helps me. However, none of those things are required to be a dating consultant. I've never had a bad review or a client who was dissatisfied with our appointments. I use that, on top of the fact that most of my clients report significantly better results as my guideline that I'm helping people :)
Do you only tell clients what’s wrong with their profiles, or do you actually help them improve them?	yes, in my appt called "Profile Overhaul" we completely overhaul your appt. By the end of it, you'll have new bios for the dating apps you use and a set of super specific instructions of new photos to take, as well as an action plan for getting those photos approved to make sure that you're doing it correctly :) You can read here to get a more indepth look at what happens during the appt: https://www.advicebychloe.com/pricing-services
For example: I’m a guy who doesn’t take that many pictures in general, so my dating profile pictures are very limited. How would you recommend fixing that?	Q answered above
When giving advice to men, especially on how to look more attractive in pictures, how do you separate what you’re attracted to from what their audience would be attracted to? I would really struggle with that! I personally have my own preferences but I need to give the person advice on what their target demographic would want to see.	I focus more on taking photos that show off their best features and give an accurate view of what they look like. In terms of their style and such, I don't try to change any of that, because they are who they are. The only time I delve into style is if they're wearing clothes that are so baggy it's making them look heavier than the are or make them look sloppy etc...
Have you ever considered or done work similar but different. For example bringing that spark back in a marriage?	That would be closer to therapy, and while I am able to practice therapy (I'm an MSW) that isn't something I do through Advice by Chloe :)
Does the women who's giving dating advice have a special someone in her life? and/or have you been tempted to date any of the people you've worked with? lol 😁	I have a boyfriend, who I met on a dating app, but was not a client haha. He's been on a huge part of the journey with me for Advice by Chloe. He actually named my most popular service, The Pocket Chloe haha. He's also the frequent editor of my blog.
Very inspirational and a joy to hear someone work hard whilst in a low place, especially as you’re helping others. Well done.	The short answer is that you don't need to advertise your mental health struggles on your profile. Lots of people are struggling with their mental health, but it's something really vulnerable to talk about and absolutely not necessary to disclose to strangers on a dating app. It's totally find to look for casual relationships or hookups on dating platforms, as long as you aren't being misleading.
I’m in a pre-dating-app situation where I’m a little stuck and intrigued to hear your opinion.	Q answered above
I have chronic depression and it’s taken me out of work for 4 years (it’s a low-mood version where life feels like it’s flat-lined).	Q answered above
Before this, I would say I was liked and loved.	Q answered above
I’m still me but I broke down and my self-image shattered (lost a long term relationship because of my depression).	Q answered above
With time I can change this mindset and script but the part I find scary is that I’m a mid 30s guy on benefits with depression.	Q answered above
How would one even begin to advertise their self?	Q answered above
I’m someone who would be looking for a less-serious relationship or just human connection as I need to be in love with myself before I can commit to a relationship.	Q answered above
TIA	Q answered above
https://www.reddit.com/AskReddit/comments/bzizi3/poor_college_students_of_reddit_what_tricks_have/evbjvyo?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3	bahaha, the dating advice is something someone wrote after I had already started Advice by Chloe. Omg that felt like a million years ago. I was so incredibly stressed and scared when I wrote that post. I had no money and was super close to getting evicted. It's actually kinda emotional to look back at that time. Wow, it's been a crazy ride. Thanks for reminding me of that!
On seeing this now, you must feel "Now who's laughing, Bitch!"	Q answered above
Is this how you got the idea??	Q answered above
You've come up with a great business model and a great service! After looking through your website and seeing all the rave reviews I'm definitely considering booking an appointment.	Hiya, those are really practical and very good questions!
It's extremely heartening that you work with clients in a way that breaks some people out of misogynistic mindsets. Hopefully that's more rewarding that it is exhausting, but either way it's a valuable job you've taken on!	* having a selfie or two is fine on your profile, ppl are a lot more forgiving of them during covid. You still at least half of your photos to be of the non-selfie variety. NO mirror selfies, bathroom selfies, bedroom selfies, or in a crowded or messy room in your house. Selfies outside actually tend to do a lot better and make you look more social, even if you're alone.
I have a couple simple questions if you don't mind answering:	* You are only as attractive as your least attractive photo, so one of the most effective ways of increasing the quality of your profile is to be super picky about what you allow on it. Every photo dilutes the quality by increasing that gap. As long as you have at least one good face shot and one good full body shot, 4 photos is the sweetspot when it comes to numbers. Hinge requires 6, but every app that doesn't require more than 4, I would recommend that you use 4. HOWEVER (and this is a big however) this technique ONLY WORKS if she walks away from your profile feeling like she has a good idea of what you look like- so those 4 photos should be awesome and consistent.
* Thoughts on selfies/mirror selfies?	I look forward to talking with you more if you books an appt! If you sign up for a my mailing list, it comes with a $5 coupon code for any appt ;)
* For services like Tinder where the number of pictures is a bit more flexible than e.g. Bumble or Hinge, do you recommend a specific number of pictures? Do you advocate foagainst using up all 9 picture slots on Tinder?	Q answered above
Who made your website? It's pretty cool	I did!!! I had help from a few friends. I used Squarespace because I can't code.
I just want to say that I LOVE your business! Do you offer services for women looking to date men or know of any people that do?	I've had a few female clients, but most of my clients are male. There aren't a lot of services for women that I've found. If you're interested, send me an email and we can talk about what I can help with [email protected]
What made you think of that when you were making the post?	I was trying to think of a marketable skill I could sell online. I was just trying to make enough money to buy groceries. I never imagined it would turn into this. I'm a gamer with mostly male friends, so I was super aware that lots of men struggle with dating profiles.
Do you have any experience in polyamory or non monogamous relationships?	not a lot, but I've had one or two poly clients and a few poly friends :)
Isn’t this basically just onlyfans?	nah man. I don't get dating advice with my tits out.
What is the meaning of life?	hamster-sized unicorns
Very cool AMA! What was it like when you first started - how did you manage all the requests and what were some of your biggest lessons learned about your clients and how to help them in the early days?	It was...overwhelming in the beginning. I was working 12hr days, 7 days a week for about a month. However, I was able to catch up on my bills, which was sooooooooo worth it. In the beginning I didn't have any sort of template or plan, I just kinda went in blind and helped them the best I could. Over time, I learned common themes and what most guys struggled with, I spent a lot of time researching dating app psychology, and creating properly structured appointments. Essentially, I went from a person casually offering to help pimp out dating profiles to an organized consultant haha.
P.S. I think you are WAY undercharging!	I get told I'm undercharging all the time, but I try really hard to keep my prices fair while also maintaining a livable wage.
What's surprised me the most is a HUGE age range of clients. I assumed that most of my clients would be younger guys. My biggest age group is guys from like 25-32. A close second is guys 18-23, but I have had a surprising number of older men who are getting back into dating and are overwhelmed. My oldest client was 72. He was the best.	I can't tell if you're asking if there's room for a 36yr old in the dating world or as a dating consultant.. either way, the answer is yes haha. If you're asking about dating, there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to use dating apps at 36. Dating apps are all marketing and psychology. Once you understand the machinery behind the curtain, it gets a lot less intimidating :)
Looks like someone asked a similar question and you came though while I took a half hour to write this out 😜.	haha thanks for finding it. I educate. If it's obvious they aren't interested in learning, we have a frank conversation, and that sometimes ends with my ending the call.
https://reddit.com/IAmA/comments/ki5xxw/_/ggp7190/?context=1	Q answered above
Serve? You mean join the military? Is that a really common thing to do for college age women where you live?	lol I thought they meant as a waitress.
Sorry, I just realised I’m asking for free advice.	absolutely <3
Can someone in my position still advertise as appealing?	Q answered above
>which means that they keep coming back	I have appts for different stages of dating. As they continue succeed, they turn to me for help in a new area of dating they aren't accustomed with. Then they find a partner and disappear. Sometimes we game together haha.
Why would they ever need to come back again if your advice worked?	Q answered above
Honestly I'd pay for someone to teach me to smile better.	it's not just you. I'd be out of a job if dudes were taught how to smile as children. A spent like 2hrs a day talking to guys about smiling haha
I used to smile weirdly as a kid in an earnest and genuine attempt to try and smile. But I stopped because it looked weird. And now I don't really know how to smile on command without making it seem forced and weird.	Q answered above
Natural smiles, easy peasy. Smiling for the camera... yeah, nah.	Q answered above
I live in a rural area and you should see some of the female profiles. A lot of them have zoomed in creepy face pics. A lot of times it wont even be their full face in the frame. And a lot of them are holding fish in one of their photos. I saw one last week that said don't match with me unless you're a Dr who makes over $200,000 a year. I know a lot of Drs and maybe one of them makes that much.	gross. How close are you to a larger city? try changing your zipcode to a nearby area with a population of women you think you'd be more compatible with.
Are you up for 1 hour call on your free marketing knowledge?	DM me in a few days after this has died down and we can chat :)
Can you talk about the person you hired to help you ensure your privacy - How did you find them? What kinds of things did they teach you? What did they charge and was it worth it? TIA	He was a friend of a friend. It was a long time ago, but I think he charged $100 for an hour long workshop. It was incredibly helpful. A lot of it was common sense, but things I had never thought of before. This was a whole new world for me.
obviously, don’t share who you hired. but how do we find somebody like who you hired?	I use Reddit a lot. subreddits like forhire. In this situation, it was a friend of a friend.
That’s pretty cool. The only thing stopping me from wanting to start an online biz/blog is that I have the impression you NEED to share your personal details/LinkedIn/IG otherwise you’re seen as not being authentic. I prefer staying anonymous as well.	Demonstrate value by advertising your TRACEABLE reviews. Anyone can make up fake reviews on the website. Mine are clickable and lead you to the source to add creditability. Once people trust that you know what you're doing, you don't need to show your face. I would definitely get more business if took a bunch of photos of myself for instagram, but the loss of privacy just isn't worth it to me... and it feels too much like I'm selling myself. I don't want dudes booking appointments with me because they're attracted to me.
If it's your face on your Instagram post you'd probably want to take it down. If it's not you, well done on the security!	I don't have my face on my Instagram. You might be referring to one of the stock photos I use for my blogs.
Sorry what’s a Doxing attemps? I’m french	people who try to find your personal information and use it to harm you.
Do you mind sharing that “privacy safe” referral please?	dm me in a few days to remind me, and I will for sure :)
This is true - I was fretting about costs in having experts help me, but a friend reframed it as “tuition” and it made so much sense. I was learning, as well as getting help. I haven’t regretted seeking expertise (where I could truly afford it, of course). I have made some mistakes in choosing whom to ask, but if your doing anything new and creative you’re bound to make some mistakes.	oooh, I like thinking about it as tuition. That's awesome.
A relationship based on marketing seems doomed to failure. (Or a very unhappy woman at least.) Don't you feel guilty about helping men to manipulate and mislead women like this?	I don't help manipulate or mislead women. I help men to market their true selves more effectively. Everything is marketing. When you create a dating profile you are marketing yourself, that's what dating is. You can do it poorly or effectively, but either way you're marketing yourself. Marketing doesn't need to be a bad word.
..... Can I ask, what the usual results are? Or the range?	* 35% of clients independently reach out to tell me that their results are insane and to thank me.
Answer to Q above	* Including that group, 85% respond with positive experiences when I reach out to them a month after our appt to ask what their experience has been like
Answer to Q above	* 15% don't respond to my email checking in
Answer to Q above	* 0% have told me that they found my services unhelpful
Who on Reddit did you hire to advise you on setting up a small business? You can DM or just put me in touch with said person independently. I don’t need help immediately, but plan on it soon enough and will need the help then.	Can you DM me in a few days to remind me? my inbox is overflowing rn and I'm scared I'll lose your message. Happy to help :)
[deleted]	lol make an appointment to find out :) I think a few of my old clients have posted in the thread as confirmation. Also the proof photo haha
What are the details/specifics on the pocket Chloe thing?	you can check out the specifics here: https://www.advicebychloe.com/pricing-services
Answer to Q above	It's basically a service where I am available to you via text or DM for 7 days, from 9am-midnight est. It's $100 for the week. Most of my clients use it to send me a screenshot of the profile of someone they matched with and I write the opener for them, or they send me what they want to write and I edit it for them, or the send me a screenshot of their dms and ask for how to respond. Most of my clients use it as training wheels. First I teach them the skills in a session, and then the Pocket Chloe is to teach them how to apply those skills.
Are you able to track or do you have any historical data on how effective your marketing campaigns are?	Most marketing campaigns keep up with that for you. It's something I'm still learning how to do effectively. I'm much better at it than I used to be, but I'm still learning. It's been trial and error for me.
I just recently listened to a great Freakonomics episode and I’m intensely curious on how it might apply to a small independent business as opposed to a big firm.	Q answered above
what is the Pocket Chloe?	you can check out the specifics here: https://www.advicebychloe.com/pricing-services
Answer to Q above	It's basically a service where I am available to you via text or DM for 7 days, from 9am-midnight est. It's $100 for the week. Most of my clients use it to send me a screenshot of the profile of someone they matched with and I write the opener for them, or they send me what they want to write and I edit it for them, or the send me a screenshot of their dms and ask for how to respond. Most of my clients use it as training wheels. First I teach them the skills in a session, and then the Pocket Chloe is to teach them how to apply those skills.
I just got my MSW this fall! And you’re right about the salary thing. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping for more than $20/hr.	congrats! Work on getting that LCSW, it'll pay a lot more haha.
I’ve been reading your comments and you really come across as a genuine, helpful person!	thanks :) that means a lot. It was definitely a learning process in how to maintain good boundaries without coming off as cold or unkind. I feel like starting this business has helped me grow up so much as a person. My ability to make boundaries and be firm has increased SO MUCH.
A lot of what you said seems theoretically possible to me: be candid to clients, have patience to educate them, showcase new perspectives, and cut them off when they go too far. I think these are kinda ‘duh’ on paper, but also not easy to execute in real life (even just through online interaction). And honestly, can be applicable to scenarios outside of dating app profiles. Your process sounds fascinating!	Q answered above
Wow, I ♥️ you for being an advocate! You're in such a unique position since they're coming to you for advice. I'm sure you've broken quite a few negative feedback loops. You're doing excellent work.	oh my gosh, the number of clients I had who thought that women needed to be 'convinced' to have sex with them was INSANE. Most of them aren't bad guys, they've just been feed bullshit their whole life about women.
PS, I sent you a DM to draw attention to something on your site.	Q answered above
>(how do I get an asian girl/latina girl, etc...), I educate.	I try really hard to talk to them as nonjudgmentally as possible. If they feel like I'm looking down on them or preaching to them or trying to shame them, they'll shut down. Instead, we talk about it practically and it usually centers around how to help them get what they want- so they'll be more invested.
Gods, How do you even start that conversation? "Well first off ethnicity isn't like a brand at the store... These are real human beings... ect."	Q answered above
You mentioned "how do I get an asian girl/latina girl, etc". Is wanting a partner of a curtain ethnicity the enherint bad thing or is it their way of going about it?	it depends on why you're attracted to a certain ethnicity. I wrote a blog about it, i'll send you the link to give you my thoughts :)
Answer to Q above	https://www.advicebychloe.com/blog/racial-preference-vs-racism
>With clients who are sexist or racist (how do I get an asian girl/latina girl, etc...), I educate.	Having a preference for physical traits is not racist, but objectifying an entire race based on assumptions made because of stereotypes is racist. No one wants to feel like you're dating them because they're Asian. It feels gross inside. It's totally fine to have a preference, as long as it isn't based on stereotypes. The person I'm responding to was referencing my blog, where I talk about the difference between racial preference and racism. You can check out what I'm talking about here: https://www.advicebychloe.com/blog/racial-preference-vs-racism
You seem really sweet and kind hearted in all your replies but how is having a preference for Asians considered racist? If anything it's quite the opposite of rasist no?	Q answered above
It's like judging someone for liking blondes or red heads it's not racist or discriminating it's just a preference.. I mean am I homophobic for liking gay guys?	Q answered above
Have you had success educating any of them?	oh yeah, for sure. The number of guys who came to me with the assumption that women needed to be 'convinced' to have sex with them, they being pushy sexually is a normal part of dating, etc... is scarily high. We have a frank conversation about it, and most of them are open to change. I mean, if you're frustrated enough with dating that you hire a dating consultant you're usually open to change. I've had mostly good experiences, and when an issue is super common and needs to be addressed I write a blog about it so that everyone can read it for free haha.
Oh man, I remember my husband’s dating profile before we met. All of his pictures were of him with a long beard, sunglasses, and taken like 30 feet away, focusing on hobbies (like motorcycling in a helmet that completely obscured his face, lol). I was a little hesitant before meeting him, because I felt like I didn’t really know what he looked like!	haha this is SO many of my clients. So happy for you guys!!!
Well, I took a chance on him anyway, and when I got to the cafe, in walked this insanely good-looking, polished, clean shaven guy with a nice jawline, wearing fitted, fashionable clothes. I didn’t greet him at first, because I didn’t realize he was the guy I was meeting! Part of me is glad that he didn’t market himself too well, because he might’ve been snatched up by someone else before I met him! lol	Q answered above
So to clarify, having a full body shot is good?	A full body shot is vital. However, avoid halfsies. Your photos should either be from the above the belly button of a full body shot. If you're cutting off half of your legs in your photos it's going to make you look smaller than you are.
Do you find that having studied anthropology helps you in your business a lot?	for sure, studying anthropology helps in understanding people and cultures in general :)
You’re literally me! I commented earlier about just getting an MSW, but I ALSO got my undergrad in CulAnth. From Duke. The degree was completely useless for me. I’d assume you didn’t have an success with it either since you were broke after you graduated.	haha that's awesome. Yeah, my undergrad wasn't helpful for making money, but I always planned for it to be an asset for my higher degrees.
Umm, market like crazy, hire some coaches, and stack them with clients. You take a cut. Raise your rates to $100/hour or $50/hour for your junior coaches. Host group sessions where you charge $25 each for a round table discussion of each participant’s profile, honest and open. Why throw away a growing business?	yeah, I've thought about it. Advice by Chloe is my baby, and trusting other people with my clients makes me nervous. I'm not going to think about it yet, I have a few years until I'm finished with my PhD haha.
I have a professional coach who charges $800/hour after building up to that his entire career and he has an entire team of people charging much lower rates.	Q answered above
Thank you. Every group I play with makes D&D about being a ludicrous munchkin character with no roleplaying and limited storyline. Boooo, I want to be an imperfect hero who makes sense in the context of their world lol	maybe better advice would be to be picky about the DM and before you invest in a campaign talk to the DM about the world he's building and the game he's trying to curate. Being picky about the campaigns I invest in has saved me so much frustration!
> D&D is my obsession. Don't be afraid to be adventurous. Make a character who feels real to you, and don't be afraid to role-play.	haha that's a great metaphor that I'm going to steal for one blog.
How similar is building a good dating profile to building a good character sheet? :D	Q answered above
Your argument is coherent but... I’m a woman (an conventionally attractive one at that, if I say so myself), I’ve had good feedback about my profile and I’m averaging two matches a day. Even when I was younger (I’m 34, so probably hitting some sort of cutoff age filter or other) it wasn’t that much better. I’m still trying to find this magical wonderland where women can be super duper picky..	Do you live in a small area? Is the zip code you're in a suburb full of married men? If so, change your zip code to a nearby area with more available guys. I advise using voter maps to find areas with the population you're looking for. It's hard to give good advice because I can't see your profile or go over specifics with you, but if you're a conventionally attractive woman and you aren't getting matches, something is wrong.
So most is most of your work focusing on these shitty, superficial swiping apps? What about more in-depth sites like OkCupid that actually allow you to see some depth about a person? I wouldn't even want a relationship with the kind of person you're describing who would "swipe left" over trivial/superficial things. I can only imagine how awful it would be to have to deal with someone like that on a daily basis in a relationship.	I work with all dating apps, the swiping apps are just the ones people use most often. However, those apps tend to do better for men than the older website-based dating platforms like okcupid and match.com because those sites aren't nearly as location based as swiping apps- which means that an attractive female with have literally thousands of matches... which means that unless you're one of the first people to message her, you will be lost in the crowd. Swiping apps are based on your current location, which lowers the match rates, which means that she's much more likely to see you. I'm also including a quote from one of my blogs so I don't have to write out the explanation of why women are picky on dating apps:
Answer to Q above	"If she’s going to swipe left on you because you wrote that you love D&D in your profile, then she can get off of her pedestal and fuck off, right? As a Changeling Circle of the Moon Druid, I understand the indignation. Give me a minute to explain though.
Answer to Q above	Ok, so close your eyes and imagine that you’re shopping for a new coffeemaker. The store has like 100 options because this is a special kind of store that only sells lots of coffee makers (just go with it). You’re not going to spend dozens of hours carefully researching each one, and you aren’t going to bring all of them home.
Answer to Q above	You’re going to quickly narrow down your options based on what’s closest to what you think you want. There are dozens of other coffee pots that could’ve worked just as well, or even better, than the one you ended up choosing... but it would have been incredibly time consuming and super impractical for you to do it any other way. Now, multiply those 100 coffee makers by 5 and switch them to potential matches. That’s what it’s like for most women on dating apps. "
Answer to Q above	and here's the full blog: https://www.advicebychloe.com/blog/the-biggest-mistake-youre-making-on-dating-apps-part-2
Answer to Q above	Women aren't swiping left often because they're super shallow and superficial, it's because they can't swipe right on most people, because then they'd have hundreds of matches. It's impractical bordering on impossible.
Do you spend much time teaching people how to use the apps/technology itself? (i.e. click the menu and change "Looking for" from "male" to "female").	not really. I've had a few clients who needed me to walk them through creating a profile, but they were mostly older men who have been out of the dating game for a decade.
I write internet software and wonder a lot how hard it is for people to learn how to use software.	Q answered above
Why hinge?	I think it's great for hookups and relationships. It's also where I met my boyfriend, so I may be a bit biased. However, my clients consistently get pretty good results on Hinge.
Thank you so much for your reply!!	I feel you!!! I went through a similar experience. I also joined Asian support groups on Reddit and on Discord, but the ones I joined were very toxic, so I walked away. If you need and Asian girlfriend to vent to, feel free to send me a DM and we can exchange information. Either way, good luck to you! <3 <3 <3
It makes me so happy you understand what I'm going through. It feels like sometimes I have no one to talk to about this. A lot of my asian girlfriends don't like talking about this stuff because they don't care or it makes them uncomfortable (also, I realize I shouldn't be expecting them to do the emotional labor to help me work through something personal).	Q answered above
I agree with you that demasculinization of asian men is a real problem. Its honestly a question I ask myself a lot -- why am I not holding out for an asian guy? But at the same time it's infuriating because I know from experience most asian guys would jump at the chance to date a white girl.	Q answered above
I think part of the red flag searching behavior has been exacerbated by my discovery of some asian "support" subreddits here because I've noticed that afterwards I've been overthinking way more. I've since realized that they are really just asian men groups, not even representative of asian men (none of previous partners would have ever talked like this), learned the term MRAsian, and began to take their word less seriously. However, the psychological impact is long lasting unfortunately :(	Q answered above
(idk why Im talking so much but) thank you again for your reply!! and best of luck with your studies and business :)	Q answered above

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[Table] Iama guy who has been living alone in an abandoned ‘ghost town’ for over 6 months. I bought the town just over two years ago. AMA! (pt 1/3)

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That sounds like an excellent adventure. What’s the coolest thing that you’ve found since you moved in?	A few things! I was cleaning up the original general store (which opened around 1891) and in the way back, under tons of old furniture, I found this old briefcase. It was wrapped in a blanket and shoved under one of the original counters in the store.
	It was FULL of documents surrounding the lives of 3 different miners. Their highs (love letters, mining claims, selling silver) and their lows (divorce settlements, lawsuits over unpaid bills, and letters to friends). I really liked that glimpse into life back then. There was even a map outlining SOMETHING on the property that one had recieved. I've been working for a few months to figure out exactly where the map leads and why. It's like a treasure hunt.
	Also almost everyday I explore the abandoned mines. There are over 30 miles of mines under the town. I find all sorts of things from the past, and I really like it. I keep them all in this small 'museum' I'm making. Dynamite boxes, old clothing, pocketwatches, etc.
	What I really want to find is Levi Jeans. Levi's made the first blue jean for California silver miners in 1873. They are THE thing to find for denim collectors and Levi corporate can buy them back for close to $100k because they're so rare.
	They've found original Levi's here before in the mines and in the buildings. So I know they're here. I just have to find them.
	It's become a personal quest.
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I was wondering if you’ve found anything related to Chinese migrants working in the mines? The Museum of Asian Americans in NYC has (or had, last time I visited) a cool exhibition about migrant workers in California, they could be interested in pictures!	Recently I found two old Chinese coins that apparently are from 300 years ago. They were in a part of the town that the Chinese miners lived in stone shacks. You can see photos of them in here
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You need to invest in a metal detector.	I have one! I found some cool old Chinese coins with it a month or so ago...
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Thanks for the great reply! So much history for you to discover. Hope the treasure hunt brings some more interesting things to light. An old pair of Levi’s would be great. Are you sharing photos or keeping that low-key?	I have some photos of what I find on my Instagram. I'll post more tomorrow. I actually found some cool stuff in a mine earlier today: https://www.instagram.com/brentwunderwood/
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Wild. Is there concern about the air quality in the mine? Do you have an air sensor?	I bring a 4 gas monitor with me into the mines
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Wait is Cerro Gordo the location that Jeff Goldblum visits to find old denims for his Disney+ show?	Yeah! I was here when they were filming. He's such a cool dude.
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I'd get a metal detector if I were you, a town being that old you could easily find a bunch of valuable stuff if it hasn't already been detected.	I did some metal detecting the other day and found some cool Chinese coins! They're in this album: https://www.instagram.com/p/CEcXkxOpLfq/
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That’s the main thing I’ve taken from your TikToks - this dude really wants to find a pair of Levi’s!!!	Accurate.
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There was an episode about the jean hunter guy on Jeff goldblums disney plus show. Was the first thing I thought of when they asked you what you found. Was thinking it'd be nice if you got some jeans!	They filmed that episode here!
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Lolol well then. I'm preaching to the choir. So you met Jeff goldblum too? Or was that before your time? He seems like a chill guy	I met him. He was the best. Spent tons of time just sitting with me learning about the town. Even when the production people asked him to hurry up. Enjoyable experience.
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When you think life can't become an adventure stuff like this happen. Current quest: Find the Levi Jeans. Reward: $100,000	Yup
Do you have water, electric and sewer? If so will the current systems support what you’re looking to do?	I have electric. I don't have water or sewer. I use outhouses.
	Water has been the missing puzzle piece here for nearly a century. The town used to use springs that were supported by Owens Lake. Owens Lake was drained as part of the LA Aqueduct program and that led to the springs drying up, and Cerro Gordo drying up. That's a big reason nobody wanted it really.
	People have been trying different approaches for years to get water back - trucking up water, collecting, etc.
	There is water that collects at the 700 level of the main mine shaft (so 700 ft below the surface). They once pumped water out of there to bring into town. That pump went out about 15-20 years ago. Nobody replaced it because of the danger involved in replacing it. To get down to the 700 level you have to use the original hoist and cage from 1865.
	Over the past few months, I put together a crew, and we went down and replaced the pump. After that, we had to run 500 ft of new piping back up.
	BUT, I can say for the first time in a few decades, Cerro Gordo (kinda) has water. The system isn't perfect right now, so I won't count it as total win yet.
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The LA Aqueduct is really interesting to read / learn about, definitely worth checking it out for anyone not familiar. If you've ever wondered how Los Angeles supports millions of people.... it can't. Los Angeles is only sustainable because of a giant aqueduct that starts in the Sierra Nevadas some 400 miles away. It's been a fight for just about every community in between that used to rely on those lakes, creeks and rivers.	Definitely. There is a book "Water Seekers" that I found up here that is interesting on it. Also the movie Chinatown of course...
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Cadillac Desert is also a good one to read on the subject.	Yes! That is the one I was thinking about but couldn't remember. Thank you
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Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner too if you haven't come across it already! Edit: sorry other earlier post hidden until after i had posted. Bonus edit: Secret Knowledge of Water by Craig Childs is another good one.	Yes! So good.
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Rahdahdah: forget it, Brent. it's Cerro Gordo TheReelStig: Brent, please tell me you have footage or pics of the original hoist and cage you took down to replace the water pump. Please please u/hkaustin	Oh for sure. There is video in this YouTube video https://youtu.be/r9PPgAvXkEY around 28 minutes in. And I'll find some photos and follow up here
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Interestingly enough, and I don’t know how much I should actually write about this, but I was just promoted at my work to a position that directly oversees the rehabilitation of Owens Lake which is now effectively a dust bowl. The City of LA has a very poor relationship with Mono and Inyo County but I’m hoping to right the ship in this new position. Hope water one day becomes a non issue for you!	whoa! That hits very close to home. What is the plan for Owens Lake? Can you like put even 6 inches of water back across the lake? I feel that would not only look awesome but control the dust. Obviously I know nothing about how this actually works...
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Short-term, the name of the game is dust mitigation. Shallow flooding of the lake used to be a primary method of dust control but there’s been a recent shift to irrigation systems and vegetation (salt grass) which prevents dust pickup. Realistically, Owen’s Lake will not be a notable body of water within our lifetime. However, that’s not to say that the Lake itself loses significance when it comes to water conveyance. The reason the lake was drained in the first place is that the various watersheds that feed the lake were cut off and redirected. The best shot for your town to have potable water supply would be to find the nearest watershed by your town and work with Inyo or Mono County to access those resources. Since you plan to keep the population low, you don’t need a crazy water treatment system. You can even build a small primary/secondary treatment system yourself. The tricky part is building a trunkline that delivers the water to your city. There’s a lot that goes into it, and I don’t even know all the steps since starting a town is not common territory. But feel free to shoot me a message if you want more info!	Interesting! I'll shoot you a message. We have been trucking from Lone Pine, and the county is OK with that for now, but also exploring other options...
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I just started watching your YouTube videos a few weeks ago, and the first one I watched was about replacing the pump (it came up in my recommendations). This AMA is cool because I am familiar with everything you are talking about from the videos.	Thanks for watching them! I plan to make longer video of water process. It was very difficult and interesting (I think)...
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Have you monetized you’re videos yet? You’re getting lots of views. You could make some extra money that way.	I just started last week. I was nervous because I thought it would turn people off of the videos.
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Do you have any concerns over the water being contaminated? Do you have any process in place for testing it to ensure that it is safe for drinking, bathing etc? Just asking out of sheer curiosity. I am totally intrigued by your entire story and admire that you've taken this project on. I'm a huge fan of California's mining history and ghost towns so this is right up my alley.	We're testing it. I'm definitely not trusting it yet. It's off to a lab now being tested. I just use it to flush toilets and wash stuff for now...
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What about digging wells near the springs? The LA Aqueduc Program probably lowered the water table (level at which the ground is saturated in water) but I think it still may be kinda high.	The town is at 8,500 ft in elevation on hard rock. I've been told too far to drill...
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You are pulling water out of an old lead mine. Don't drink it unless you have it tested multiple times over an extended period. I'm not kidding. Lead poisoning is no joke.	It was tested when it was last pulled and I'll definitely be testing it again. It's already out to a lab
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Did I read it right. Did you go down a hole in a cage of 1865?	That's correct. Supported by cables from around then too.
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I’m not sure the budget it would take, but pumping it up to a large cistern above the town and combining it with centralized rainwater collection and solar to power the pumps might help. The fun people on Preppers have had some good suggestions for off-grid living, as do Homesteading	Nice! I'll check it out. Water is always on my mind here and I'm open to anything that might solve it for us...
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Maybe a silly question but have you considered using caving ropework techniques to move people and equipment around the mine shaft? People in the southeast US routinely rappel and climb 600' of rope. Takes 45 minutes to go up after you get used to it. There's a variety of rope haul systems from 3:1 on up. The professional version of this is SPRAT (Society of Professional Rope Access Technicians). I can't imagine having to use the original hoist.	Very interesting. Any videos or more resources on that? I've rappelled down a 120 ft mine shaft not too long ago, so I'm relatively comfortable with the process, but would want to learn more here.
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How much does it rain? Just put out a million pots and catch it. Jk but if it did rain a considerable amount, consider trying to collect some of it legitimately	I've thought about snow collection. There are some weird laws around it, but I imagine if I spend enough time I can navigate them...
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Bruh you bought a property this size with no water source?	Correct. And man has it been an adventure
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What was it like 700 ft down the shaft?!	A bit eerie. It takes a long time to get there and there is a decent amount of moisture. So I was ready to get back up after an hour or so down there...
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I am loving this AMA. What an adventure! Thank you!	Thanks for checking it out!
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I take it you need to know a lot about all the buildings in the town to do stuff like this no? Like how did you learn that their was water in this mine?	The water in the mine was rumored for a while and I met some people who had been down 20 years prior to work on the pump. Although most said it was too dangerous to attempt.
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Scary but awesome... Got any pics of the old equipment and you guys putting it to work running the new pipes?	Let me dig some up! I'll post on IG later tonight if you have that, or I'll come back here and post some Imgur album https://www.instagram.com/brentwunderwood/
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Mine shaft water...have you had it tested for metals / contaminants?	It's out for testing now...
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The video of you going doing that old ass elevator was freaky	It was freaky in person too. That thing is ancient and sticks every once and a while.
Have you had any paranormal experiences? If so can you detail them?	I'll preface my answer with this - before buying the town I was firm nonbeliever. It wasn't something I believed in or thought about, so that element of the town wasn't interesting to me.
	Since being here, there have been a number of experiences that have moved me along the scale closer to thinking skeptical, but not impossible.
	One of my earlier days here I was walking by a building called the 'bunkhouse' from 1900. You have to walk by it to get to this nice sunset spot. As I was walking by, I noticed that the light in the kitchen was on and someone opened the kitchen blinds, looked out, and closed them.
	It didn't immediately freak me out because there had been some people working on the property and I had just got there the day before. I thought maybe they were staying in that building.
	So I went about my night and in the morning asked the caretaker, who was here at the time, how long the contractors were staying in the bunkhouse.
	He kinda slowly turned to me and said they had left weeks ago.
	That made my stomach drop a bit, but I'm a rational person, so I went over there to check for drafts or anything weird. I went in the bunkhouse, turned off the light, and put a padlock on the door (one that only I had the key to).
	That night, when I went back to the sunset spot, the light was back on in the bunkhouse. Not just on, but the switch was flipped back up. Nobody has the key and there was no way to enter, so that combined with the 'face' I saw the day before freaked me out a bit.
	Also just random stuff moving around without me moving them...
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Is the town "cleared"? Could be some drifter or kids poking around,	No other people. The final 7 miles to get here is up steep dirt road that only leads here. There were no other cars in town. So I'd notice if someone else was hanging around...
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Someone else said it, but not directly to you; you should check for carbon monoxide poisoning	Check where for that?
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It’s a Reddit reference to a story where this guy was blacking out due to carbon monoxide poisoning. He kept doing thing and forgetting when he blacked. He thought someone was sneaking around hits house but it was just him not remembering.	Ahhhhhh. lol. I'll have to find that story.
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You are probably being bombarded with mail right now and this is a weird comment to ask this on so I don't expect you to reply. Anyways! Is the electrical in your town original or did you replace it? Are you using the same infrastructure that was used over 100 years ago? I am assuming you didn't rewire all the buildings, so if that's the case it is amazing it still works! Also any other ghost stories? Love your channel by the way!	We recently rewired the majority of the buildings because of an electrical fire. 100 years of people tinkering with the electrical that shouldn't have been tinkering with electrical did not leave it in a good place.
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Oh wow you are still reading these!! Thanks for the response! Ummm was there any wire and tube wiring left? Also side question have you found any old communication equipment like a Marconi machine or other types of telegraphs? Thanks again so much for answering my question!	Knob and tube? Oh yeah, it's everywhere. We've been getting rid of it however. I found some old telephones, but I'm not sure how old they are...
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Have you made a video on more spooky natural events from there?	Not yet! Should I?
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You ever invite paranormal investigators to come down to do some investigation?	There have been a few that came. That show "Ghost Adventures" did an investigation/episode here.
I have been following you on YouTube. Super interested. I feel sure that at some point you will find a section of tunnel that is appearing to be flat, maybe some ceiling debris on the ground. Only to find out it's a lose covering of debris and truly you are over a vertical shaft hidden by that debris. Maybe supported by some old beams. Are there any precautions you take for this to hopefully not be a surprise you find? Are there pretty reliable descriptions or maps of the layouts of the mines?	There are maps of the mines. Not ALL the mines I check out, but some of them. I explore the mines a lot. Probably too much. Like every day I probably am inside an old mine for 2-4 hours. Doing that for 6 months has given me a better understanding of the mines, what to look for, what to look out for, etc. I also bring a decent amount of safety equipment with me now (which I stupidly didn't at first).
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Good to hear you're taking more precautions now. I watched your first couple of videos and thought "This dude's gonna get himself killed in the mines and nobody will know where to look."	I think the same thing when I look back.
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I’m glad you upgraded those new balance shoes for some boots through the first couple videos I watched 😜	Had to! Learning a lot out here haha
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What sort of safety equipment do you take when exploding mines? Like, gas detectors? I’d also always wondered how you can tell if an area is likely to collapse or not. Is collapse the main hazard?	4 gas monitor, helmet, rope, harness, knives, etc. I'd say bad gas is most dangerous because you can't see it. I usually go pretty slow back there and don't push it on collapse areas. But gas can sneak up and knock you out without you knowing it...
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Do you have any w-65 self rescuers or SR-100s or oxygen bottles? The idea of exploring old mines is facinating but there is a very real danger of deadly gasses and back falls. It sounds like these mines haven't been maintained for years.	I have a 4-gas monitor with me, but I don't have those two items. I will investigate adding those to the arsenal. That is a good call. Thank you.
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Now i’m curious. What are some red flags when you’re going in a mine? What are some green flags? Any near death experiences or “this isnt right” moments? I know you mentioned paranormal, which I personally dont believe too much in, but have you encountered anything like that?	Moisture makes me pause. It erodes the wood faster and can cause weird air. If the rock is really soft and lots of collapse, that isn't good. Whenever I have a 'this isn't right' I usually turn around. Lots of mines here is always my mentality. No reason to get injured in one that isnt' right. Although I recently went down to the 200 level mine here and it didn't feel right, but I went through anyways because it takes a crew to get you down there.
Congrats on owning a beautiful town! I virtually scouted Cerro Gordo as a potential location for an independent short film last year, a psychedelic Pakistani cowboy story. I never found the right place and the project stalled out, but revisiting images of the Cerro Gordo ghost town I’m again realizing it’s the perfect place. Would you consider having me film there? I can send you the treatment and reel. Update: whoa this got a lot of love, I appreciate it so much!! Thanks especially to everyone who expressed an interest in working on the film. Once I get things going I’ll reach out to you folks. This is a passion project and I would love to work on it w people who respond to the concept. Much love to all	Shoot me a message on Instagram!
I’ve made the drive up and down 395 at least 100 times over the past 30 years, so I’m somewhat familiar with the area. I’ve seen the sign to Cerro Gordo, but never even thought to take that detour. It would be cool to have somewhere interesting to stop. Do you see fighter jets flying around a lot? I used to see them a lot over Owens Lake, but it’s been a few years.	A decent number of jets. Sometimes they even give me a show. One day I was standing on our main porch here looking over the valley and down our road. Suddenly this jet comes zooming up the road. Only 20 ft above the road maybe. I saw him before I heard him and all I could think to do was wave, so he barrel-rolled over the town, then hit the burners and broke the sound-barrier once in Death Valley. I know they're not supposed to do that, but it was pretty cool...
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Please post any sort of jet videos you can please!!! I would LOVE to see that content!	I'll try, but they never give me a heads up before coming!
I had no idea this place existed. Time to binge watch all your videos, the two I've seen are absolutely fantastic. Other than monetary donations, is there any other way to help out? Cerro Gordo is 4 hours away and I'd love to help you and just see the place in person. I can bring lots of water and non perishables and take as much trash as I can before I leave. Plus I don't believe in ghosts, so it'd be cool to have a paranormal experience. This entire thing fascinates me! Thank you so much for sharing.	Yeah! We always could use water, nonperishables, and an extra set of hands sometimes. Shoot me a message on here on on Instagram?
I’m a mining engineer from Australia. Any plans to produce a computer 3D model of the underground workings under the town? We aren’t that far away in the industry from being able to use mini drones to automatically map underground ( think that scene in Prometheus for reference minus the stupidity). Also people are starting to use 3D printing for underground 3D plans. You might get some interest from the University in the US that teach mining engineering to collaborate on those kinds projects if you reach out to them.	That's a good idea! I'd like to create physical diagram too to show people
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I just read an article about using drones (specifically, the Elios by Flyability) for exploration/mapping of confined and/or potentially dangerous spaces! They look like they're pretty darn expensive, but it's really interesting technology, especially in application to something like these mines!	Very, very interesting. Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.
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Can you post it on Thingiverse? Then we can all 3d print it!!!	Is that a subreddit? Can you link me?
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It’s a 3d printing website where people share models to 3d print. It’s pretty cool!	I'll check it out. Thank you.
How do you arrange EMS services, like hospitals, fire trucks, police, etc? Are you covered by the county services? When the road washed out, were you responsible for the repairs, or did the local government help out?	The final 7 miles to get to the town is up a steep dirt road. It goes from about 2,500 ft in elevation to 8,500 ft in elevation in that 7 miles.
	That road is technically a 'utility road' because the FAA uses it to get to a watchtower on a neighboring road.
	So technically the county maintains it. However, the timeline on that maintenance is never guaranteed....
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Good purchase! I’ve ridden my dirt bike down that road several years ago. Gnarly switchbacks with a great view! I will check out your YouTube and follow along. Enjoy your new town - !	Thank you! Did you ever do the Swansea Salt Tram road? Now THAT is a gnarly road that starts here in town
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Thats the one. Kinda sketchy on a KTM 950. 😬😬	A dude in a camper truck rolled off the road like a month ago. Definitely sketchy.
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Do you have any amenities? How do you get your food? Are you considering any environmental friendly sources of energy to power your town?	I get my food from Lone Pine, which is about 1 hour or 1.5 hours each way. I'd love to use solar more in the future! The town is hooked to the electric grid already.
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Why not reach out to u/ElonMuskOfficial and see if he’ll be willing to help?	Paging u/ElonMuskOfficial - please help!
What kind of stuff fills your days there? And what have you got in the ways of supplies/ways to get supplies - I seem to remember you saying you were sick of beans pretty early on.	I wake up, feed the animals (goats and kittens). Make breakfast. Check/send emails for an hour or two. Go work on the property for a while (currently I'm clearing a site that I hope to build a new cabin on). Then I come back for lunch/more emails. In the late afternoon I leave the phone behind and go hiking to find an abandoned mine or some other cool thing out there. Treasure hunting. Then I come back, make dinner. Maybe look at the stars for a while. Go to bed.
	In terms of supplies, I go to 'town' every 2 weeks or so to load up. After being here 6 months, I've gotten better at planning long stretches with no grocery runs...
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Why leave your phone behind? Would be good to call 911 if needed, no?	Reception doesn't really work. And there is nobody bothering me or me not being present by checking phone for anything...
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By “town” do you mean Lone Pine?	Correct
I was devastated to see the old american hotel burn down, and ended up contributing to the gofundme. Are you still waiting for permits to continue the construction? Love the channel btw. Say hi to the goats from me :)	Oh, wow. Thank you so much. That means a ton.
	I'm happy to say that on Sept 23rd, we got unanimous approval in a public hearing to rebuild and operate the hotel. So we have permits in hand and are working everyday to get this thing back by next summer. Winter is coming quick however...
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If you own the town, I assume “unanimous approval” means you just said yes to yourself and Approved!	haha, well, this had to go to the county level because of the permits involved, so the county commissioners and such.
	Although I can see how that would seem ridiculous if it was just me...
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You just standing in front of a mirror: “All in favor, say ‘aye.’” “Aye!” “All opposed, say ‘nay.’” ... “And since this is a ceremonial vote, and only my word matters, the measure passes!”	Unanimously
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Can someone explain why you would need a permit to build something on your own land?	California
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That’s wonderful news!! I purchased a nail from the hotel from you guys and it’s a cool little piece of history and a little bit towards your rebuilding. I look forward to visiting when you have things settled, watching your videos all the time - be careful in those mines!	Oh, thank you! I appreciate that. That goes a long way in helping. It really is a piece of American history too. Thanks for supporting.
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Listen man once you get that hotel set up I wouldn't mind putting my hat in if you need some front desk workers. I've been looking for a change of scenery anyway.	Cool! Well, hopefully next summer...
Will you sell/rent houses to people once everything is restored?	Hopefully rent on short term basis, eventually. I think part of the beauty of the town is the space and stillness, so always want to be conscious of how many people are up here at any time.
	But I think it would be really cool to let people stay in some of the original buildings. Like the house that the founder of the town built, etc. It's interacting with history in an interesting way.
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I'd like to suggest you also list your town on Harvest Hosts for RVers - no utility hookups necessary (but always appreciated).	The final 7 miles to get up here is really difficult. Dirt mountain road that increases in elevation 6,000 ft during that 7 miles. I don't think it would be super easy for RVers to get up here. But maybe I'm wrong?
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Make it a reddit town. Each building is a different subreddit. Only redditors can rent buildings/rooms. Logos everywhere. Reddit meetups galore.	I'd like to do a reddit meetup eventually. Just, pandemic, you know?
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Why not set it up as a ghost town Air BNB?! Id totally stay if I was ever in the area.	Pandemic and safety reasons for now, but soon! I hope. Maybe next summer?
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My great uncle bought a town in a different state. He restored the structures and turned it in to a big retreat. His clients are mostly organizations hosting leadership retreats and churches on youth trips. He’s had a lot of success and absolutely loves all that he’s done with it.	Nice! What is it called?
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420Prelude: Follow-up question, where did you get the money to be able to afford an entire town at your age (I'm assuming you're under 30 from the picture) and will you teach me whatever type of self discipline that requires. craftmacaro: Be born with parents who have enough money to get you started. There aren’t many other ways to reliably have a certain amount of money like this at 30 that doesn’t require at least some major factor of luck combined with talent and timing. Edit: this is in no way a comment against OP, just a simple observation that there is no “trick” to success... it’s always going to take luck, talent, opportunities, timing and effort in some combination. Besides already having money. There is also nothing wrong with being born with money... we don’t get to choose. The only thing I think is unfortunate is when those who are born with money don’t use it as an opportunity to do something they care about that wouldn’t be able to support them if they didn’t have that help. I think it’s unfortunate when being born with money spawns only a desire to make more money so your children can have even more rather than pursuing your dreams to follow a passion and hopefully (I think this is usually the case) most people’s passions are to do something that benefits something they care about (other people, wildlife, a scientific or artistically creative pursuit). Also, making sure your children will be able to have the choices you had is not an unfortunate choice either... I’m Talking about money for money sake, like having multiple millions of dollars and stocks and property and still being primarily concerned only with getting more and wanting the same from your children. And to reiterate, I don’t think this is what OP is doing.	Both my parents were public school teachers. They haven't provided me any financial supports since I was 18 or so and were never wealthy. The answer in my case was work a decent amount, spend little, meet as many people as you can, then bet big when you finally find something you really believe in. I'm 32. I've worked almost full-time through college and all that. Even if you don't make TONS of money, you can set aside a lot. It was mostly OPM that got this down. As in 'other people's money' - people that believed in me because they'd seen how I worked and done in the past. That isn't to say this is the route to take. I don't really have a retirement account. Or more specifically, I don't have ANY retirement account. That is the town. I pushed in all the chips.
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I really wasn’t trying to insinuate you were a trust fund baby, (and there’s nothing wrong with that if you were... unless I’m forgetting I certainly didn’t make a choice to be formed at any time between when my genes formed in my grandmother’s uterus/fathers balls and I was born...). Just that apart from what you mentioned (which definitely isn’t a get rich quick or method that would lead to a majority of people ending up with a town) there isn’t a “trick” to financial success. I think what you’re doing is really cool, I hope you have some environmental plans as well because you have an amazing opportunity to allow some people to study how certain species deal with an area abandoned by a human population. I’d love a chance to study/look fo and depending on where it is, take venom samples from snakes in your town if there are venomous snakes there. I imagine that the rodent populations could have yielded some interesting drives on composition compared to those found even a few dozen miles outside the town limits. I study medical potential of snake venom proteins. Anyway, I hope things work out! With population growth there’s going to be a lot more spread of humans into depopulated areas in the future unless something unforeseen happens, and you practically have a “bio dome” for what that might look like.	Thank you! Weirdly not too many snakes up here. Maybe it is because of elevation? Town is at 8,500 ft. I've seen a rattler in the road but way down closer to the start of the road.
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Oh yeah the elevation up there will keep the snakes away, a nice warm day though and you might see one. Did you grow up in the area? Not trying to doxx I just grew up in Bishop and think it's so cool someone bought this place. Do you know if they are still doing MoonTribe at the campground in near Lone Pine?	I don't know of MoonTribe, but I do like Bishop! I go to that bakery there whenever I can. I know that's more of a tourist thing, but it's still really good bread..
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Not meaning to question your point but you seem to suggest it’s just about working hard and spending little. To save up the amount you have over the 14 or so years you had the opportunity to, you needed to put away 7700 a month. There is more to that than “spending little, working hard and betting big” IMO. Interested to know how you managed this.	Oh no, I didn't pay $1.4M in cash. Like I mentioned, I had 'investors' as well as a large hard money loan to close.
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You gonna have a brothel?	Well, the town used to have 4, so maybe just for historical accuracy?
How has living alone for that long changed you? What's something you wish you knew when you first started?	I think I'm less rushed and more focused on things that matter to me. When I was living in a city, I'd always make up these tasks that I HAD to do. Run to the grocery story to get this item for dinner, go over to the Wal-Mart to get that. I think filling days like that is a way to avoid thinking about things you don't want to think about or avoid doing certain things you know you should.
	Here I don't have those options, so I have to sit with those thoughts for longer. It helps clarify things...
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Do you keep a personal journal? It seems like a lot of what you do is publicly posted in one way or another, but do you keep something just for yourself? For those times you sit with your thoughts and maybe others will read someday long after you are gone, or you could order it get chucked down a mine after you pass.	For sure. I keep a lot to myself and keep a place to reflect more private thoughts. It's interesting to see what I'm thinking about change just over 6 months here. Not just subjects, as that isn't interesting, but way of thinking more like.
What are your plans for the town? Do you see this as largely functioning as a residential tenement or more of a revenue-focused tourist attraction?	I'd like for more people to experience the town's history and natural beauty. So practically, that means, I hope some people can stay overnight (in hotel or an original building) or they can come a take a tour of the property during the day. But with all that, maintain the history that makes this town what it is.
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Would you allow visitors at this point? I'm about three hours away, could I take a weekend trip? Would there be anything that you'd like a visitor to bring?	Maybe! Call or email first. Technically closed right now because of pandemic and I'm doing a lot of work to property, but sometimes it's OK if done outside/safely/etc.
I found your YouTube a few weeks ago. I’ve certainly enjoyed watching the adventure so far. How exactly did you find the town? Was it something you found by a simple google search or was it through word of mouth?	I owned a backpacker hostel in Austin, TX for a while. It was in a historic building, so I liked history/hospitality combo.
	My friend knew I was looking for a 'bigger' project, and saw the town listed on a local real estate blog.
	The rest, as they say, is history.

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Lesson 2: Business

Episode 6, "Spice Up Your Drag" [POLL]

The queens walk back into the werk room. Most of them are still shell shocked from the events that occured moments before. No one could've expected that only five girls would've been walking back from the mainstage.
"Oh my God..." Pedro gasps. " u/Starrrupt and u/Frandiohh are gone... Just like that. It's honestly just really upsetting."
Shasha nods. "Yeah, you were really close with both of them, huh? I can't imagine how you must be feeling right now."
Talking Head: u/StrawPedro, "Now that Starr and Fran are gone I sort of feel alone in this competition. Micro, BQ, Maritess, and Shasha are all veterans who have done this before, and it's a little isolating."
"I'm really gonna miss both of them" Shasha sighs, putting an arm around Pedro. "Fran was always such a sweetheart and everyone here loved her. And Starr was so talented, I definitely expected her to go a lot further."
Pedro nods. "Yeah, I sort of feel bad for Starr, she seemed really defeated during that last lip sync. I wish I could ask her what was running through her head at that moment?"
Micro scoffs, and sticks her nose up in the air. "Whatever. I don't give a shit. She quit, and Mama doesn't respect no quitters."
Pedro glares at her. "Micro, what the fuck? You need to have more respect for other people. I used to look up to you so much but the way you treat others is really causing me to question that."
Micro rolls her eyes and flips Pedro off.
Talking Head: u/Micronesiarain, "I don't have time for these other girl's 'feeling' right now. Like, deadass. If Starr hadn't wasted all of our time, then my DOB score would be higher right now. So no, I'm not sad Starr's gone, I'm sad that win she had isn't ever going to me. Oh my God I sound so mean right now, but I'm nice! I promise! Ahahaha!"
Shasha clears her throat. "Um... Anyway, congratulations to Maritess for turning it the fuck out and getting the win, girl! I knew you were going to eat so I tried to give you the worst verse possible. And somehow, you still snagged that win! Ugh, I hate you!"
Maritess throws her head back in evil laughter. "I told you faggots I'd show you who big boss is! Now I finally have a challenge win, and it's looking mighty good baby! You know who else was a mighty good baby? Heh... Jesus Christ."
BQ slumps her shoulders and looks at the ground dejectedly. "Yeah, congratz girl. Must be fucking nice..."
Talking Head: u/BtQw3, "Now everyone remaining in the competition has a win except me. I'm feeling really fucking bummed, because each week I feel like I'm missing the mark. I really thought I had the rusical in the bag, but I froze up during the performance and fucked up my choreo. But I can't give up yet, because I REALLY need to go all the way."
Tense Music
Maritess starts untying Micro's corset as the latter lets out a long sigh of relief. "Oh God that felt good. Almost as good as this week's double elimination."
The camera zooms in on Pedro as the light fades from her eyes. She slowly begins to dissociate, until her soul is no longer in the werk room. She is in Pedroville: A land full of clowns, video games, and chocolate fountains. A smile finally finds it's way onto Pedro's face.
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SPOILED DRAG RACE DRAG RACE

TONIGHT WITH SPECIAL GUEST, WINNER OF SDRDR SEASON 4 u/SufjanCaesar!!!

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Electronic Music
The girls all trot into the werk room. u/Micronesiarain walks in last, in a black bodysuit, corset, and six inch stiletto's. She turns around and slaps her ass, winking at the cameras.
The other girls walk around her, trying to stay out of her spotlight. Not out of the good of their hearts, but for their own safety.
Talking Head: u/MaritessTrosper, "As a Christian, it's strange working with such a loose woman. But I'd also be wearing outfits like that if I still had the body for it, AHAHAHAHAH!!!"
The contestants gather around a table to converse. "So..." Shasha begins, "Who do you think Miss u/Grotesquette was calling last night?"
u/BtQw3 groans and rubs her temples. "Ugh, don't remind me that they're bringing back another bitch. I'm honestly pissed, like how is this fair to any of us?"
Suddenly, a door open and Grot walks down the stairs. "Hey, hey, hey, it's Fat Albert!!!" she yells. The other contestants cheer as she stands in front of them.
"Well lay deez, as I'm sure you've all probably figured out, I'm going to be bringing someone back. Someone I felt left the competition a little too soon. So I'd like you all to give a warm welcome back to the iconic...

u/Swish_17!

Swish walks into the werk room as the other girls gasp.
Swish turns around to face the camera and smirks.
"I'm disabled, I have one win, and I'm a front runner that fucked up snatch game. Hi my name is ~~Yvie Oddly~~ u/Swish_17, and I didn't come to be robbed 5th place. I came to win!"
The girls stand and stare in complete silence. Finally Pedro runs up and hugs Pedro. "Oh my God, I can't believe it's you!" Pedro laughs.
Talking Head: u/StrawPedro, "Swish was one of my really close friends before she left, so having her back is a total dream come true!"
The other girls look a little less enthused, most of them holding looks of disgust or annoyance.
Talking Head: u/MaritessTrosper, "Swish? Are you kidding?! Just like fat white wheelchair woman she impersonated during snatch game, she should've stayed off her feet!!!"
Swish joins the other girls and faces Grot, still with a glint mischief in her eye.
Grot: "Well now that that's settled, let's give Swish a little welcome back party. The library is open! Because reading is what?"
All: "Fundamental"
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u/MaritessTrosper
"(To BQ) Beans & Queeriocridity, I’m very surprised you’re still here, you made it so far! Now do us a favor and stay far away from us all!"
"Micro, just like your taste in men, you’ve shown us how bland you are in challenges and that’s hard when someone like Shasha is here…"
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u/Micronesiarain
"Shasha, third time around and I’m still waiting to see you finally do well!"
"As many of you may know, I did test positive for the coronavirus. Hmm...positive. Something that can never be said about BQ’s DOB."
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u/Swish_17
"BQ, if you ran like your mouth, you’d be in good shape. I always get irritated and I just want to slap you! But then I remember, shit splatters!"
"Micro. Bitch, you’re so fake, even china denied they made you! Maybe you should eat your make up so you can try being pretty on the inside <3 Micro, babes, I would read you some more, but I’m a little scared youd bully me into quitting, so imma leave you for now."
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u/BtQw3
"Micro-RobloxRage! Fan Favorite! And just like Valentina she has been completely uninteresting since her 1 win. But at least her runways have been half-decent, except the one challenge they actually mattered. I guess you really do love Jujubee!"
"StrawPedro! Our Gaymer Guy and just like that WowPresents show we haven't paid too much attention to you. You were supposed to be the wIErd0 queen this season, yet the only strange thing that you have done is winning the ball dressed as a pirate from the caribbean."
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u/StrawPedro
"Miss Micropenis- I mean Micronesia Rain. I used to think it was ridiculous that some people believe the earth is flat. But people seem to believe that your runways have been good, so I guess anything's possible!"
"Moving on to the butch queen herself, the Butch Queen. Girl you sure can campaign huh? the Cheeto one should just hire you as campaign manager and he'll be set for another 4 years!"
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u/ShashaStan
"BQ!! Hey girl! I never thought i would get a chance to compete against the internet-human version Flo Rida, but here you are getting low..low...low...low."
"Mix...Maritess! You’ve killed the verse challenges this season, could you help me find a rhyme for this new song im writing? It goes Eyes straight ahead and steady on the trigger, gunna save the word and blow up this….? Thanks babes x"
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Grotesquette: Damn, you bitches went in! Well the library is closed, officially! And the winner of today's mini challenge is...

u/Swish_17!!!

Talking Head: u/Swish_17, "I'm getting my comedy redemption! This return really is getting off to a good start, huh?"
Grotesquette: Now for today's Maxi Challenge, you'll be turning into Spice Girls! You'll be tasked with designing your Spice Girl persona, outfit, and premiere album. This is a design challenge, but it's also a comedy challenge! So your final product should make the judges laugh. Goodluck, and don't fuck it up!"
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The girls sit around the werk room working on their concepts and ideas. Paper and pencils are sprawled across the tables, and the workspace is uncharacteristically silent.
"So how are you feeling about yours, Micro? Shasha inquires.
"I'm feeling really good." Micro smiles. "I think the judges are gonna completely love my concept, and I'm definitely no stranger to costume design, so my look is going to be killer as well. Hell, the actual Spice Girls might ask me to join after this!"
Shasha balls her fists and stares at the ground staring angrily. "The Spice Girls disbanded years ago.... Fockin' American wanker..."
Talking Head: u/Micronesiarain, "These types of challenges are right up my alley. The competition is halfway over, and I plan on snagging at least two more wins, so there's no time for me to rest!"
"I'm also feeling super good about mine" Swish smiles, gently styling a lavender purple wig. "I worked really hard on my concept, and it's a little out there, but I know it's gonna be received really well. I mean, it better be because if the returning queen messes up even once, it's lights out. But not this girl! I'm finna pull a Kandy Zyanide!"
Pedro stares at a blank piece of paper and groans. Finally, she slams her head into the table causing the other girls to jump at the loud honk noise Pedro's nose makes.
"Ugh, I don't know what to do! This challenge is gonna be the death of me...." Pedro pouts.
Talking Head: u/StrawPedro, "I feel a lot of pressure to do well this challenge, since I'm the comedy queen. I'm starting to feel a little nervous..."
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Lights... Cameras.... Action!!!
u/Grotesquette struts the runway
u/Grotesquette: Welcome to the mainstage of SDRDR Season 6! u/KingKabs, what does a guy gotta do if he wants to be your lover?
u/KingKabs: He has got to kill. Peace is far too easy, but that's the way it is!
u/Grotesquette: The hilarious u/Spencerietta, tell me what you want what you really really want?
u/Spencerietta: Oh girl I'll tell you what you want, what you really really want!
u/Grotesquette: And the iconic u/-_-whodat! What's the real meaning of being a spice girl?
u/-_-whodat: Well it's all girl power, innit? Everything's girl power innit?
u/Grotesquette: And finally our special guest judge, the winner of season 4 u/sufjancaesar!
u/sufjancaesar: Could you maybe not say that I was a past competitor on live telivision? It's a tad embarassing...
u/Grotesquette: Tonight, I challenged my girls to design their own Spice Girl characters! Ladies and gentlemen start your engines. And may the best woman... WIN!!!
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u/MaritessTrosper - Chav Spice

I'm chav spice an' ahm mos' known in 'he land ov bri'ish faw bein on wawld's stric'es' paren's. I gradua'ed from six'h fawm year ov prima’y skool an' nah I ahm 'o be a singer. I applied 'o be on x fac'aw bu' 'hey 'aven'' responded. Anyhah don'' you like my 'an? me makeup is jus’ lihke ar’iana gr’ande an' all 'ha'. I'm la'e 'o my par'y bu' fam you can buy me nehw mix'ape "men'o iwness inni'" froem ou'side nando's af'er 'he par'y yeah?
Album cover: https://imgur.com/a/bKmhHkP
1) I’m Not Late Miss, This Is Bollocks! (Intro)
2) Manchester Vibes (ft. Ariana Grande)
3) Litcherally Legendary (Prod. by Ayesha Erotica)
4) Can't Stand These Slags
5) Wayament (Interlude)
6) Pussy Talk (Brexit Remix ft. City Girls)
7) Realizashuns (Africa Is Not A Country?)
8) Gn Streaks xx
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u/Micronesiarain - Predator Spice

Misunderstood, lonely, aroused by minors. Do those words descibe me? No. The confines of a word cannot capture who I am. Sherry, Xtina, Sharon. I idolize them as role models, never allowing labels to define their life. That's how Predator Spice lives her life.
Album cover: https://imgur.com/a/HOw9A0Y
1) Purr...vert
2) Eager Actor
3) Dear Annency ft Sharon Needles
4) Oops!...I Scammed You Again
5) Piece of Pie ft. Anna Tripolitis
6) Hello, it's Allison
7) I Love Cock'n'Hole...pics
8) Legal in Nigeria
9) Everytime I Scam (I Cum a Little) ft. HippoLegend
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u/Swish_17 - Cringe Spice

Are you an unattractive teenage girl that’s just screaming for attention? Do you have hair growing out of suspicious places? Does pop culture not represent your alternative and out of the box style? Do you think you were “born in the wrong generation”? Do people treat you like BQ? Is your face just, boot nasty? Welp, the corporate machine that is the music industry has something for you. don’t worry Jessica, you don’t have to stan sexually ambiguous adult men like Harry Styles or Shawn Mendes anymore, now you can stan someone who speaks and acts exactly like you 🤩 She’s not like other girls, she’s DIFFERENT! Meet ✨Cringe Spice✨ She loves ice cream, pizza, and sleeping in bed all day Her hobbies include: -Puppies 😍 -Writing Harry Styles whatpadds 😜 -drinking coffee 😎 -And ignoring boys 🙄 You think your life is hard? She's a Junior wearing a unicorn shirt to school, HIGH SCHOOL!
Album Front
Album Back
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u/ShashaStan - Chav Spice

Grotesquette: (To Spencerietta) Wow, same concept...
Yoo g, yeah u got a ciggy a can snip? Mate cmon dont be a pussy yeah? Sprays Victoria secret ww nah ur well moist, such a wet fanny oh my lorrd, ur wetter than that whore courtney fam, everywuns been on her bunda. Sprays Victoria secret Anyways, am chav spice, am from manchester , a live in me nans council flat n play donk music wen she’s owt at lidl, ye none of that faggy sad emo shit like that billy eyelash gyal. Am gunna be the next spice girl cus am proper ream at sends u know, like a diss track yeah. Ave got one for u/whodat lemme do it for ya. Oh who dat? Oh its u/whodat, looking like a fanny a fucked wiv a bat, looking like a breadstick wiv dat long ass neck, he’s a fuckin big straggot like that dick noah beck sick yeah? Am training to be an MUA, cus ma mate charlene said am the only gyal Sprays Victoria secret who can cover the herpes she got from some vegan stoner lad, called matt or sommet, n am doin a level wun BTEC Sprays Victoria secret In ‘air n beauty, but am gunna drop owt cuz Bill Gates yeah, he was a dropout n he’s got like , a MILLION quid. Am a really class gal as well uno. Like, those Blacks Matter posts are well important to me cuz when a tan for gaffs , am basically a black woman n my inner shalisha comes out, n uno i dont wanna get hate crimed on ma way to the local shop for ma lambrini an echo falls. Familys propa important to me as well, like me mandem is proper supportive. The ova day some goff was tryna pull some voodoo shit on us a swear man, looked a bit like u/violetdior uno? And courntey my bff forever Sprays Victoria secret shouted at her “oi goff, why dont u use the devils horns as a dildo ‘stead of your bruvvas cock” i was HOWLIN mate. She dropped her monsta quicker than i drop a pill. Right, am i done? I need to go get a plan b cus courtney told me u can get preggers from a blowie and it makes ur kids come out wiv one leg.
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u/StrawPedro - Five Spice

Hi, is steamed judges ❤️ ! My name is Su Mi and my Engrish name is Smile, and I am the FIVE Spice! Like the Chinese powder yes! I am a beautiful China girl so that is why the name <3. I recently got dropped from left SNH48, but invited to join the Spice Girls! To replace someone called Jerry. I did not know Spices Girls had a man member hahaha... I hear from my agent that Cock-Asian mans love me... well I love them too <3! I hope one of the handsome mans will teach me good Engrish. I will releasing my day-bew album soon! I love cook, so this album talks about cookings and foods! Also why I wear chop sticks on my head. Because this is my first Engrish elbow, I explore west recipees and ingredients and make song about them! I also corroborated with famous transvesters because I want home of sexuals to stand me! You may notice my spellings wrong, but who care? I sound like natural speaker! The ESL peoples will love me! So, without further of due, I present my elbow calls "B.A.T." (like the animal, but I don't eated them ❤️ it is just an acrimony for "have a good apple tight" in french
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u/BtQw3 - Popcorn Spice

Hey guys its meeeeee *cheerleader Y pose* Anita Sunshine the newest addition to the Spice Girls. **POPCORN SPIIIICE**. I am a cheery little cheerleader who is always ready to have fun. My motto is “GO GO GO GO If You’re Going Too Fast Then GO some MO’!” I named myself Popcorn Spice because all of my friends say that I am an explosion of joy, and since making popcorn is kinda like an explosion I decided that it was a perfect name. My friends also say rush into things too easily but I dont think thats true at all! I mean I wait a whole day after a break up to look for a new boyfriend, what more do they want! When they first called me to be a Spice Girl I screamed yes and ran to my best friend's house all the way across town. After I got to the studio I found out it was just the callbacks but I won the gig anyway WHOO *cartwheels*. I think I was brought into the Spice Girls to take them from 10 to 100, my bubbly personality can brighten anyone’s mood and I think that’s a thing that everyone needs. My first job as an official Spice Girl was to create an EP of 3 songs, but I couldn’t help myself so I turned it into a 11 track album. Get ready for... *drumroll* **HONEY HEART EXPLOSION** *does that jump split thing that cheerleaders do* This is my way of saying hello to the music world. Exploding onto the scene… literally! This album really represents me and all of the funny and quirky sides I have. Of course I’ll be saving a few tricks for my first album with the group, so stay tuned for that! I will see you all soon and remember. PO-PCORN Yeah It's Popcorn SPICE! "Allllllllright. 👏🏽 Are 👏🏽 You 👏🏽 Ready👏🏽 PO-PCORN Yeah It's Popcorn SPICE, PO-PCORN"
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Grotesquette: Thank you ladies. Now, let's begin with critiques. Starting with... u/MaritessTrosper!
-_-whodat: I honestly really enjoyed your performance in every aspect of this challenge. You had a fun concept, a hilarious description, an amazing tracklist and such a funny look as well. You truly knocked it out the park, I feel like the only potential downside could be if others had slightly more creative takes on the theme. But nonetheless, a very strong challenge for you.
Spencerietta: Now girl, you know you never wanna be a repeat on the runway or in the challenge, especially at this point in the competition. But if you are gonna do it, this is how you do it. You kept it short and sweet, we got the character, the references were broad enough that I didn't have to think to myself, "....huh?" and I was just instantly enjoying the show. Please please please do me a favor and produce some of these tracks, these titles alone have me dying. The runway, eh. Boring. Accurate, sure, but boring. I think if you would have gone a little bit harder in that aspect you would have a perfect showing tonight, but regardless I really enjoyed you tonight.
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"Thank you Maritess. Moving onto u/ShashaStan!"
KingKabs: Your performance tonight is reference heavy and I entirely understand the character you are painting and presenting for us. Sadly, rather than a Manila AS4 talent show it ended up being very tedious in the end result so I'd say it's important you understand the dichotomy between excess and effectiveness given you're on the runway tonight with someone who provided the same Spice girl.

The excess lies in the length of your remarks and the repetitive nature of your track list.

While I'd say yours is much more well articulated you lost points for those specific aspects of your performance. Your Spice Girl look is excellent.

For future performances I stress that you understand the necessity of cutting the fat and getting to the point while maintaining the integrity of your foundation. Thank you.
Spencerietta: Shasha Shasha Shasha, move over sis– it's bad! This wasn't it, girl. Relying too much on inside jokes is never gonna do you well, and it feels like that's all you did tonight. And like Ruppi, I'm always here for trashing on the girls, but these jokes don't really make a lot of sense with your concept. Their personalized diss tracks, I'm assuming, but the problem is that I shouldn't be assuming. They feel like inside jokes and that alienates your audience. This is a challenge that needs to be clear, branded, and ready to go. Yours still seems like an unfinished idea. At least your runway was... fun? Of the two Chav Spice characters, it was my favorite, which isn't a hard feat but it's a feat nonetheless I suppose.
SufjanCaesar: I loved your references tonight! They’re very on brand for this character and that really shone through. However, this could’ve really used some editing and could’ve been a more concise and clear character narrative. As for your album, visually this is a huge success. I just wish I got to see more diversity in your track names. The bonus track was hilarious and I wish we saw more of that. Overall, this had promise but needed refinement.
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"Alright, moving onto u/Micronesiarain!"
KingKabs: Excellence. Start to finish. The references are strong. The intuitiveness of the track list is impeccable. The Spice Girl is creative and topical. In addition to being wildly offensive, yet retaining an intelligent/clever, yet comedic point of view. Spelling out P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E in your track list on top of outlining hot topic drag race queens was an amazing angle to play this character as! Might it be tired in theory? Sure. However, it immensely pulled through. This is how you win this competition.
Grotesquette: Oh my God Micro, I'm obsessed with this! I love how you incorporated parts of your culture with extremely taboo topics, but they didn’t feel stilted or offensive. You were poking fun at some of your own experiences, and combining them with recent controversy which in my opinion is genius. The look is also immaculate, and probably my favorite look of the night overall. There’s so much detail put into this, from the hidden jokes in the tracklist, the cover design, and the tracks spelling out a word. You definitely hit it out of the park tonight. Keep it the fuck up!!!
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"Up next, u/StrawPedro!"
SufjanCaesar: Bitch, this was amazing! First off, I absolutely loved your description of the character, your incorporation of an accent into text was super effective and hilarious. Secondly, not only are your album names sending me, but it honestly looks really good and on-brand visually. This is exactly how I’d expect this kind of project to look like. Lastly, your Five Spice look rounds this whole project, as it’s a nice glamorous addition to all the camp. Great work overall!
KingKabs: Hello. This is offensive...and funny as hell! A knockout beginning to end. The character. The stereotypical angle. The menu list album cover. The broken English track list with the busted feature names. You intensely outsold and this is the sort of work we like to see from our winners in the circle. I applaud the wit and audacity that you brought to this challenge performance.
Grotesquette: Everyone take a look at u/StrawPedro right now! This… Is how you win this competition!!! I loved everything. You had a clear concept, and amazing execution. Choosing to go with the theme of a menu inspired album, and a foreign Spice Girl who stumbles over all of the titles was so fucking hilarious. Taking stereotypes that other people might’ve used against you and making them their own is already an impressive feat within itself, and making it side splittingly funny is even crazier! By far, your Spice Girl made me laugh the most tonight. Even the name “Five Spice” is so fucking clever, because it’s a reference to the cuisine theme but also rolls off the tongue and sounds like it could be an actual artist’s stage name. Your momentum in this competition has been astounding, and you continue to shock the judges. I feel like a proud Mother right now.
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"Moving onto u/Swish_17!"
Spencerietta: Well hello and welcome back, Swish! Tonight your character was Cringe Spice and girl, you sure were cringey. And that's not a good thing. I understand the concept, but the jokes were just not there. It was nothing new or original, which isn't the best approach when you're making your comeback into the competition. You're back because of what you presented on your own, don't play it safe and rely on overused humor. We want Swish, not iFunny. Your runway, I'll admit, got a chuckle out of me. That was the only highlight from you tonight, so please if you're here next week, I'm begging for the original Swish to come back because this is not her.
-_-whodat: I didn't HATE what you did tonight, however i feel like the concept could've been executed in a much more entertaining way. Also, the look?? The correlation just... confused me. However, I enjoyed your cover and tracklist. At this point the competition is just tight and doing ok sadly isn't enough to win.
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"Last but not least, u/BtQw3!"
Grotesquette: Hi BQ. I know you worked really hard on your Spice Girls character tonight, and I want to commend you on your effort. That being said, this was easily the weakest submission of the night. I’m not saying that to be nasty, I’m saying that because I want you to grow. First of all, the name: Popcorn Spice? What does that name tell us about your character? Every other contestant’s name told us exactly what we should be expecting, and if you don’t do that it can come across as confused or disjointed. Second of all, the cheerleader concept was cute and I loved your look, but there were no jokes. A sweet and peppy cheerleader is great, but it doesn’t really go anywhere, and it doesn’t tell us about you as a competitor. When I think of BQ, I think of a badass cutthroat bitch, not a highschooler worried about making regionals. I really wanted you to do well this week, so I’m a little disappointed.
-_-whodat: Ahhhh BQ, i know you weren't confident this week and sadly I would say that it showed. I just don't think your concept ever would've been as entertaining as the others but... I also didn't care for the character description or execution with the track listing or disc design. However your look was a pretty representation of your concept but... it wasn't enough I'm afraid.
SufjanCaesar: This was a wildcard of an idea as it needed huge comedic chops to bring it to life. I felt like you were almost there, BQ. But a lot of the time I just felt ... confused at what this was trying to be? You could’ve edited this down some more to create a much clearer character. As for your album, I felt like this didn’t really fit in with the Spice Girl persona you created, alienating it from the project as a whole. All in all, I’d try and achieve more coherence in future challenges if you survive this.
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Grotesquette: Thank you ladies. Now, when I call your name please step forward.

u/StrawPedro, your Five Spice was absolutely delicious.

u/Micronesirain, your Predator Spice catfished it's way into our hearts.

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u/StrawPedro, condragulations you are the winner of this week's challenge.

Micro, great work tonight. You may step to the back of the stage.

u/MaritessTrosper, you're safe.

u/BtQw3, your PopcornSpice failed to make it to regionals. I'm sorry my dear, but you are up for elimination.

u/ShashaShtan, your ChavSpice needed the spice of originality.

u/Swish_17. cringe spice lived up to her name... A little too well maybe.

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u/Swish_17, you're safe. You may join the other girls.

u/ShashaShtan, I'm sorry my dear but tonight you are up for elimination.

u/BtQw3 and u/ShashaShtan, The time has come for you to lip sync for your life!!! Good luck, and don't fuck it up!

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